Comments on: Resumes on the Internet: Monster vs. Google http://www.booleanblackbelt.com/2008/10/resumes-on-the-internet-monster-vs-google/ Leveraging social networks, resume databases, and the Internet for sourcing and recruiting Thu, 29 Jul 2010 09:53:20 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: Boolean Black Belt http://www.booleanblackbelt.com/2008/10/resumes-on-the-internet-monster-vs-google/comment-page-1/#comment-2519 Boolean Black Belt Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:33:17 +0000 http://www.booleanblackbelt.com/?p=255#comment-2519 Thanks! I added the -~job and -~jobs at the end of the string to eliminate the large volume of false positive results that come from searching for the term "resume" that are job postings or resume sample sites. You are correct, removing that from the search does increase the results, but most (if not all, in most cases) of the results are false positives/irrelevant. Thanks!

I added the -~job and -~jobs at the end of the string to eliminate the large volume of false positive results that come from searching for the term “resume” that are job postings or resume sample sites. You are correct, removing that from the search does increase the results, but most (if not all, in most cases) of the results are false positives/irrelevant.

]]> By: ABCxyz http://www.booleanblackbelt.com/2008/10/resumes-on-the-internet-monster-vs-google/comment-page-1/#comment-2509 ABCxyz Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:40:12 +0000 http://www.booleanblackbelt.com/?p=255#comment-2509 Hey Author!!! good work... Infact very interesting "MATCH"... May be this is stupid enough question but why do you add -~job and -~jobs at the end of string.. Removing it gives more wider result (may be irrelavavent) Hey Author!!! good work…
Infact very interesting “MATCH”… May be this is stupid enough question but why do you add

-~job and -~jobs

at the end of string..

Removing it gives more wider result (may be irrelavavent)

]]> By: The Internet has Free Resumes - SO WHAT? | Boolean Black Belt http://www.booleanblackbelt.com/2008/10/resumes-on-the-internet-monster-vs-google/comment-page-1/#comment-2405 The Internet has Free Resumes - SO WHAT? | Boolean Black Belt Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:00:46 +0000 http://www.booleanblackbelt.com/?p=255#comment-2405 [...] to the right place - here are two posts/search exercises that illustrate this point dramatically: Monster vs. the Internet Round 1, and Monster vs. the Internet Round [...] [...] to the right place – here are two posts/search exercises that illustrate this point dramatically: Monster vs. the Internet Round 1, and Monster vs. the Internet Round [...]

]]> By: Kameron Swinton http://www.booleanblackbelt.com/2008/10/resumes-on-the-internet-monster-vs-google/comment-page-1/#comment-27 Kameron Swinton Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:09:49 +0000 http://www.booleanblackbelt.com/?p=255#comment-27 Looking forward to seeing the rematch, though I suspect the results won't change drastically. One other thing I've noted in sourcing resumes through Google is a large percentage of the resumes indexed are from educational institutions. This was even more evident when PageBites was still around to act as a Google for resumes stored online. Many of these resumes are for professors, research assistants, post docs and new grads. Adding -.edu to the search string eliminates these resumes from your search results. For example, in your {Java, Oracle, 20 mile radius of 94118 in San Francisco, CA} search, it eliminated 15% of the results. Looking forward to seeing the rematch, though I suspect the results won’t change drastically.

One other thing I’ve noted in sourcing resumes through Google is a large percentage of the resumes indexed are from educational institutions. This was even more evident when PageBites was still around to act as a Google for resumes stored online. Many of these resumes are for professors, research assistants, post docs and new grads. Adding -.edu to the search string eliminates these resumes from your search results. For example, in your {Java, Oracle, 20 mile radius of 94118 in San Francisco, CA} search, it eliminated 15% of the results.

]]> By: Boolean Black Belt http://www.booleanblackbelt.com/2008/10/resumes-on-the-internet-monster-vs-google/comment-page-1/#comment-24 Boolean Black Belt Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:02:51 +0000 http://www.booleanblackbelt.com/?p=255#comment-24 Kameron, Thank you for your comment - you raise excellent points. The fact that Google is not specifically designed to index and retrieve resumes makes it especially cumbersome to wield as a resume sourcing tool. I did consider the approaches you commented to, but I decided to choose the zip code method because it yields the “cleanest” results with the fewest false positives (in other words, you get mostly local resumes). You've inspired me to stage a rematch between Monster and Google, taking zip codes out and using other methods to find local candidates. Look for it soon! Kameron,
Thank you for your comment – you raise excellent points. The fact that Google is not specifically designed to index and retrieve resumes makes it especially cumbersome to wield as a resume sourcing tool. I did consider the approaches you commented to, but I decided to choose the zip code method because it yields the “cleanest” results with the fewest false positives (in other words, you get mostly local resumes).

You’ve inspired me to stage a rematch between Monster and Google, taking zip codes out and using other methods to find local candidates. Look for it soon!

]]> By: Kameron Swinton http://www.booleanblackbelt.com/2008/10/resumes-on-the-internet-monster-vs-google/comment-page-1/#comment-23 Kameron Swinton Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:17:50 +0000 http://www.booleanblackbelt.com/?p=255#comment-23 While it may be true that Monster has more resumes than Google, using a zip code search is not a fair comparison for Google. People who post their resumes on Monster are required to enter their zip code, while people who resumes are stored online will generally only put their email and/or phone numbe. Also, even using the term resume can be limiting in Google. Because it was not built to only index resumes, you have to get more creative to filter out the noise. You can try the ~CV or ~Resume, you can also take that out completely and search for types of documents, .DOC, .PDF, etc. and look for words commonly found in CV's like education, objective, etc. Really enjoy reading your blog, keep it up! While it may be true that Monster has more resumes than Google, using a zip code search is not a fair comparison for Google. People who post their resumes on Monster are required to enter their zip code, while people who resumes are stored online will generally only put their email and/or phone numbe. Also, even using the term resume can be limiting in Google. Because it was not built to only index resumes, you have to get more creative to filter out the noise. You can try the ~CV or ~Resume, you can also take that out completely and search for types of documents, .DOC, .PDF, etc. and look for words commonly found in CV’s like education, objective, etc.

Really enjoy reading your blog, keep it up!

]]> By: dgibson http://www.booleanblackbelt.com/2008/10/resumes-on-the-internet-monster-vs-google/comment-page-1/#comment-14 dgibson Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:50:41 +0000 http://www.booleanblackbelt.com/?p=255#comment-14 I am guessing that restricting the Google search to things with resume in the title is over-restrictive, yet likely necessary to maintain relevance in the query results. As you know, depending on the publishing tool or CMS, web page titles are often not formulated well, if at all. Just do a search on "untitled" or whatever the default title is for no title to see how many web pages have no title at all. I would not doubt that Google has more resumes, but since they are indexed with everything else under the sun and prioritized with Google's own bias for ranking certain types of results, it's no wonder they are hard to find (reliably). I am guessing that restricting the Google search to things with resume in the title is over-restrictive, yet likely necessary to maintain relevance in the query results. As you know, depending on the publishing tool or CMS, web page titles are often not formulated well, if at all. Just do a search on “untitled” or whatever the default title is for no title to see how many web pages have no title at all. I would not doubt that Google has more resumes, but since they are indexed with everything else under the sun and prioritized with Google’s own bias for ranking certain types of results, it’s no wonder they are hard to find (reliably).

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]]> By: Mike Harmon http://www.booleanblackbelt.com/2008/10/resumes-on-the-internet-monster-vs-google/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Mike Harmon Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:30:55 +0000 http://www.booleanblackbelt.com/?p=255#comment-12 Just wanted to say HI. I found your blog a few days ago on Technorati and have been reading it over the past few days. Just wanted to say HI. I found your blog a few days ago on Technorati and have been reading it over the past few days.

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